Dev Meeting Transcript (October 22, 2021)
[4:01 PM] Tron: Channel should be open.
[4:06 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Is there a kawordinator for tonight or a agenda?
[4:06 PM] Tron: I don’t think so.
[4:07 PM] Tron: I’m going to address any of the security issues that haven’t already been addressed.
[4:08 PM] Tron: (From the ISE report)
[4:09 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Ok well i just finished cleaning my fish tanks and missed the last dev meeting so im out of sync at the moment.
[4:09 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: reading…
[4:09 PM] Tron: I missed the last one too. I read the notes. I was at a school reunion.
[4:13 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: What are the main issues that still need code changes from the report?
[4:14 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I read fast and some of the issues are non issues when digging into them.
[4:15 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Respect the reviews and comments made above regarding the issues. Not sure about what still remains in the todo pile.
[4:16 PM] Tron: Some are non-issues. Some are just code improvements where it would be better to more clearly define what happens in an ELSE section.
[4:17 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Pasting a link to the original audit message to making reading and referencing the report easier. https://discord.com/channels/429127343165145089/482289959261175838/896128735416315934
[4:26 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: With R01 and the script check assuming all other existing objects are p2pkh what happens when we start other object types in future. taproot and schnorr sigs and associate scripts come to mind. Not an issue now but thinking about the future theyll have to be clarified.
[4:27 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Not an issue in terms of this audit just reminding myself for future.
[4:31 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Like you said in fewer words sort out the else sections.
[4:31 PM] Tron: If the changes impact consensus, then we go through a similar process.
[4:39 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: So how much work is there to get to a new core qt release with p2sh for those that want to vote for it? I read and dabble but could use another point of view.
[4:39 PM] Tron: Pretty quiet here today.
[4:40 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: not kidding! i dislike hearing my voice echo as well…:Ravemoticon_Smile:
[4:43 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I was going to say that the last few dev meetings were quiet but reasoned it was more due to analyzing the audit content than anything. I would propose moving it to 2 weekly but with an imminent code change it seems irresponsible to propose that at the moment.
[4:51 PM] fdov: The reports are completely useless. They only prove ISE does not have a clue how our code works. If we followed their suggestions we would have multiple instant hardfork-issues.
[4:52 PM] fdov: Yes, they are correct in some minor nit, but that's it.
[4:56 PM] Tron: If we have a better way to vet code, I’m open to it.
[4:57 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: So basic fixes to be updated sounds like we're a few weeks (if that) away from a release once updates are coded.
[4:58 PM] Tron: The cross-check between you, Hans and HyperPeek is fantastic and very appreciated.
[4:59 PM] Hedger: How about a Bounty Reward in a Hackathon?
[5:03 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: This could be useful but need reliable organisers and judges etc…
[5:05 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I was going to say we don't have time. Then i realised i was wrong. If we got more eyes on the code its not a waste of time!
[5:05 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Getting competent eyes if the fun bit…
[5:06 PM] Hedger: I'm seeing Hackathons are getting results!
[5:10 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Need a version of p2sh code without the "nit picking" stuff in it that ise picked up on to base the hackathon code on.
[5:14 PM] Hedger: Blockchain/Crypto is developing fast and seems critical for RavenCoin to get mov'n on, if you will 🙂
[5:14 PM] fdov: Releases need to happen to keep developers interested. There are tons of competing projects to get involved in if one is interested.
[5:14 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Real test is mainnet with proper value money on the line. Be awesome to get hackathon devs motivated with rewards though to simulate that pressure and recognition for their work securing the code!
[5:17 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I dislike hackathons for exactly the same reason though as feel its unfair to the devs who volunteer their time on ravencoin and get zero rewards other than our
appreciation. Pros and cons.
[5:19 PM] Tron: Rewards are not off the table for devs that are helping. If the foundation has funds, that is a great use.
[5:20 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I feel we need a release soon and eyes on the code. Always thinking hackathons were more usecase targeted and based around that. Could get good results imo with a bug bounty on the p2sh code.
[5:24 PM] fdov: One of the earlier plans was to do a release with the P2SH-assets code disabled for mainnet. Like current develop-tree. Personally I don't think that is very risky.
[5:24 PM] theking: Yeah I agree. Things are moving very quickly and if Raven is going to remain relevant we got a move quickly as well
[5:25 PM] fdov: I disagree that we should move quickly. Slow and safe is better than fast and fail.
[5:26 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Moving quickly and staying secure is the issue. Slow and surely without tripping, is a better outcome than sprinting and tripping on the way.
[5:27 PM] fdov: But moving is essential. 😉
[5:30 PM] Hedger: Ravencoin has a great community and developers. All have a stake, interest, time, coin, mining, current website and offerings, building a future 2nd layer… Bounties in whatever form can Help preserve the Investment by all. In addition to ISE.. It's a different time than when I had the pleasure meeting some in this Discord and this chat at the Peace Coliseum years ago in SLC.
[5:30 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: So Tron can no doubt see if the foundation can source some funding for a bug bounty. Community can carry that message pretty easily. Just need to point the community and devs to the right code we want reviewing ie. with or without the ise corrections.
[5:32 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Currently without ISE corrections as that's all we have to show.
[5:33 PM] Hedger: Weren't some of the prior generous donations earmarked simply to make sure RavenCoin happens?
[5:38 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Most donations have been redirected by the donation keepers to the ravencoin foundation for now. If the foundation dissolves we as a community will simply have to start again. This is something that can happen outside the development meetings to keep as much focus as possible on development and code. Volunteers don't need paying. We simply want ravencoin to be the best network for people to issue digital asset tokens on.
[5:39 PM] Tron: If we think bug bounties are better than security reports, we can do that. Or both.
[5:39 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Getting bug bounties and hackathon type stuff going though was a great idea! Reminders never hurt!@Hedger
[5:42 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Both. Bug bounties can be rather intangible so a report is useful to people.
The Port Lavaca Wave
Athlete Assets and Matchpoint Connection Team Up for First On-Chain…
PHOENIX, Oct. 19, 2021 /PRNewswire/ — Athlete Assets and Matchpoint Connection team-up to offer the first "on-chain" digital collectible for University of Texas Defensive Back, BJ Foster. Leveraging base protocol
[5:46 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Hackathons are great as they allow a tangible gauge of developer interest. Normies don't see the code. They see people coming up with ideas and sharing them to some extent.
[5:47 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: unavailable due to legal reasons…
[5:49 PM] Tron: What? The link doesn’t work?
[5:50 PM] Tron: First in-chain NCAA NFT.
[5:50 PM] Tron: Issued on Ravencoin and uses IPFS.
[5:51 PM] Hedger: We are in uncharted waters in many ways. Great opportunities and risks. Unfortunately I'm not a Developer. Hard to find developers and lots of competition for that skill set for sure. It's a different time. I appreciate all you guys do 🙂
[5:51 PM] Tron: Got it from MangoFarm
[5:55 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: I'm in the eu and someone is pulling that link down over gdpr for some reason.
[5:57 PM] Hedger: Let's keep helping our RavenCoin Developers with core code that allows them to have all the tools necessary to be creative. And an UI for non developers, Public Joe, to have full features available.
[6:04 PM] LSJI07 – BWS: Calling it quits for tonight. Thanks for the updates everyone!
submitted by /u/Blockchain_Surfer
[link] [comments]